Ting Ho Dung Posted June 25, 2012 Posted June 25, 2012 I picked up my first Standard and now have questions: Mine is chambered. I looked on Hamer's website and it's the only way they come now. (?) It wasn't listed as an option anyway. Mine weighs 7 lbs, 13 oz. How much do non-chambered standards weigh? Is there a difference in tone between the two? Mine is very bright, much brighter than anything else I own. Why would that be when my studios are also mahogany / maple? So is my Monaco Elite. Our Blitz is all mahogany, how would it differ from the mahogany standard? Other than SD pickups. What are the Blitz pickups designed after? Our Blitz neck pu is 10.64 ohm. The '59 is 8.75 ohm And last but not least: Am I going to keep it?
kizanski Posted June 25, 2012 Posted June 25, 2012 It was an option, but now it's a standard Standard feature.I'm sure you could omit it for a credit, were you to custom order a Standard, though.
BTMN Posted June 25, 2012 Posted June 25, 2012 I picked up my first Standard and now have questions: Mine is chambered. I looked on Hamer's website and it's the only way they come now. (?) It wasn't listed as an option anyway. Mine weighs 7 lbs, 13 oz. How much do non-chambered standards weigh? With my $2.99 Wallymart hanging fish scale the 5 full bodied ones I own wiegh between 8 and 9 lbs. My '83 Blitz is in at 9.5 lbs. with a Kahler on it. Is there a difference in tone between the two? Mine is very bright, much brighter than anything else I own. Why would that be when my studios are also mahogany / maple? So is my Monaco Elite. Our Blitz is all mahogany, how would it differ from the mahogany standard? Subjective to each guitar in hand really but in general I find that big body and the 6 on a side might contribute to a brighter guitar.The old Standrds have a veneer but the newer ones have a cap. To tell the truth I have never looked to see how thick or not the '01 is. Other than SD pickups. What are the Blitz pickups designed after? Our Blitz neck pu is 10.64 ohm. The '59 is 8.75 ohm. Blitz originals were from the early to mid '80s Diimarzio made Hamer branded pickups. Check the Blitz history pages on HFC main page links for more on that. I have a pair odf Dean Euro pickups in my Black Blitz at the moment but I'm thinking a pair of Duncan '59s or Pearly Gates in that Mahogany body Maple neck might be nice should I keep the Blitz. Thought our new friend was gonna buy it so I had it repickuped and made ready to go. Now I have a Blitz ingreat working order that wasn't a month ago. Kinda like NGD but not quite. And last but not least: Am I going to keep it? Only you know that answer no matter what we say.
Bobby Marshall Posted June 25, 2012 Posted June 25, 2012 I played an entire show with my 4 digit and it was great. Very comfortable. I did use a wide strap. Great guitar. I understand the newer ones are just as good if not better. And yours is pretty stellar in it's own right. If you are comfortable playing her and like how she sounds . . . at under 8 lbs, bound & crowned, incredible trans blueburst, I say throw a cream switch plate on the pickup switch and keep her (and play the crap out of her), that is if you have no other reasons not to keep her. Pickups can make a significant difference in the guitar's eq. I am sure someone can point you in the right direction on a pickup swap. Again, only if the guitar otherwise feels/plays great. That is an outstanding Standard.
Ting Ho Dung Posted June 25, 2012 Author Posted June 25, 2012 I say throw a cream switch plate on the pickup switch You know, now that you mention it, why is it black. It's got some weird wobble in it so I'll probably change it out on a new switchcraft anyway. Pickups can make a significant difference in the guitar's eq. I am sure someone can point you in the right direction on a pickup swap. Again, only if the guitar otherwise feels/plays great. My Studio Custom has the same pickups. No way near as bright. I did change out the cap in it though. That is an outstanding Standard. Yeah,
bubs_42 Posted June 25, 2012 Posted June 25, 2012 I was sad to have to pass on that guitar again. Seriously even after my wife told me to buy it. Back to you though, I would change the cap first. Then change pickups if it doesn't suit you .If it was me and I was going to change the pups, I would try at least the Custom Custom in the Bridge and a PG in the neck, PG/PG or what I used in Bobby's 77 a PG in the bridge and a Alnico II Pro in the Neck.
django49 Posted June 25, 2012 Posted June 25, 2012 My older korina Standard is probably the heaviest guitar I have ever played. More like 13 pounds, IIRC (Maybe there are fishing weight inside) .. Feels twice as heavy as a later chambered Standard. Meanwhile, the later edition Vector (also solid korina) is a featherweight. On the korina, I replaced the stock pups with a WCR AST set (Godwood bridge, Crossroads neck). I consider it a HUGE improvement. Really sings now.
Hackubus Posted June 26, 2012 Posted June 26, 2012 My Zandard isn't chambered, and I'd venture to guess it's 10+. My chambered Korina goldtop is probably 6+. I had a '95 that wasn't chambered, and it felt like it was in the high 7s, low 8s.
bubs_42 Posted June 26, 2012 Posted June 26, 2012 Really you Zandard was that heavy? Elduave's wasn't I'd say it was high 8's.
elduave Posted June 26, 2012 Posted June 26, 2012 Yeah, the Zandard's where heavy. IIRC the three where 10 point something, 10 point something and 9 point something, or 9 point something, 9 point something and 10 point something. Hack's had the nicest top, bub's was the lightest, and the other one (SRV wanna be?) was sort of the odd one out due to the variant figure (Jol favored the top on it). So yeah, Standard's can be 10+ lbs.
elduave Posted June 26, 2012 Posted June 26, 2012 Recent discussions on chambered sound vs non-chambered sound have been pretty spot on. My thumbnail analysis has been-the more gain you like, the happier you'll be with a non-chambered, although I think DB would tell you differently.
serial Posted June 26, 2012 Posted June 26, 2012 If the guitar is too bright, are you playing with the tone on 10? Cut it to 6 or so and you'll be in a very good spot. All but one of my Standards have been light except for an 80 that had been Kahlered and just felt thicker (never measured) in the body and my yellow 97. None have been chambered and none are really heavy. I've owned 15-20 over the years and love em.
Hackubus Posted June 26, 2012 Posted June 26, 2012 Really you Zandard was that heavy? Elduave's wasn't I'd say it was high 8's.Yup. Dangerously close to Norlin era LP Custom feelin'.
crunchee Posted June 26, 2012 Posted June 26, 2012 I had two recent Korina Standards not long ago (solid); if my memory is accurate, one was about 8 lbs. 6 oz., the other was about 10 lbs. 2 oz. Oh yeah, I could definitely feel the difference in weight between the two. Sonically, the lighter one was brighter but didn't have as much low mids and bass as the heavier one. The heavier one was darker sounding, also. They were both nice, but I sold them as I just wasn't a fan of Korina. If I could have found one that weighed and sounded somewhere in between, then it might have been a different story.I also once had two mid '90's Mahogany Standards (again, solid wood), one had a one piece body with the usual squared neck heel (like Standard Customs), the other had a two-piece body with curved neck heel. The weight on both was probably around 9 lbs and change, not much difference between the two. With all else being the same (pickups and strings included), there was a subtle difference between the two, both plugged in and acoustically. They were both good, but I couldn't tell you which was better, they were just slightly different from each other. I also once had a Special with factory JB and '59s, same as the Mahogany Standards. The Special sounded differently from the Mahogany Standards acoustically and plugged in, but I'd be hard pressed to say in what way.Each piece of wood has it's own unique characteristics. One player's favorite guitar might be another player's least favorite, and guitars are as individual as players are. As always, YMMV.
gorch Posted June 26, 2012 Posted June 26, 2012 That's been a great score. I really like it. I'm not a fan of the SD 59s, so, you might be able to treat the guitar to the right direction with a swap. I have a solid from 06 I think that has a nice swinging wing. Standards are superb and comfy guitars.
bubs_42 Posted June 26, 2012 Posted June 26, 2012 If the guitar is too bright, are you playing with the tone on 10? Cut it to 6 or so and you'll be in a very good spot. All but one of my Standards have been light except for an 80 that had been Kahlered and just felt thicker (never measured) in the body and my yellow 97. None have been chambered and none are really heavy. I've owned 15-20 over the years and love em.Really your Zandard was that heavy? Elduave's wasn't I'd say it was high 8's.My 90's Mahogany Standard is pretty light and lively to boot. Yup. Dangerously close to Norlin era LP Custom feelin'.Such Cool Guitars. It was a great idea and ended in some great guitars.
Ting Ho Dung Posted June 26, 2012 Author Posted June 26, 2012 If the guitar is too bright, are you playing with the tone on 10? Cut it to 6 or so and you'll be in a very good spot. I'm not saying she's too bright, it's cool she sounds different from the others. I'm just making an observation. She is extremely bright acoustically too. To get her to sound like my other guitars I have to turn the tone down to 2 or 3. She's very comfortable to play both seated and standing up. She's probably my most comfortable guitar for standing as the others force my wrist into a weird position that can become painful. I have also noticed she gets feedback quite easily (I play with a lot of gain or none at all) which will take some getting used to. But I like her.
bubs_42 Posted June 26, 2012 Posted June 26, 2012 No you don't. Don't force it, it's just not working admit it! I will need your paypal address.
cmatthes Posted June 26, 2012 Posted June 26, 2012 My Greenburst '08 Standard (chambered) may be a whisper above 8lbs. It is incredibly light, but vibrates/rings like a muddah.
gorch Posted June 26, 2012 Posted June 26, 2012 My Greenburst '08 Standard (chambered) may be a whisper above 8lbs. It is incredibly light, but vibrates/rings like a muddah.Have I ever seen your Greenburst '08 Standard? I'm just wondering.
bubs_42 Posted June 26, 2012 Posted June 26, 2012 Someone has the mirror of that bookmatch in Aztec Gold correct?
cmatthes Posted June 26, 2012 Posted June 26, 2012 Someone has the mirror of that bookmatch in Aztec Gold correct?Correct - Elduave ordered them at the same time, and the tops are mirror-images. Split from the same maple billet.
Ted Posted June 26, 2012 Posted June 26, 2012 Chris, I become so envious every time I see your Standard!
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Ting Ho Dung
I picked up my first Standard and now have questions:
Mine is chambered. I looked on Hamer's website and it's the only way they come now. (?) It wasn't listed as an option anyway.
Mine weighs 7 lbs, 13 oz. How much do non-chambered standards weigh?
Is there a difference in tone between the two?
Mine is very bright, much brighter than anything else I own. Why would that be when my studios are also mahogany / maple? So is my Monaco Elite.
Our Blitz is all mahogany, how would it differ from the mahogany standard? Other than SD pickups.
What are the Blitz pickups designed after? Our Blitz neck pu is 10.64 ohm. The '59 is 8.75 ohm
And last but not least: Am I going to keep it?
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