Travis Posted July 17, 2021 Posted July 17, 2021 Aside from having something custom made, or slapping together my own parts guitar; does anyone know of any shredder type guitars with FAT necks? My Charvel 650xl (Jackson Soloist clone) is fantastic but the neck carve is a bit slim and flat to be considered my favorite. My old ‘93 Hamer Diablo had a nice round neck on it, seemed bigger than average considering what other people have commented on here before I *love* the Allparts FAT neck carve on my partscaster Strat and Esquire builds but would like at least 22 frets, and jumbo at that. Does anyone know of any “shredder” type guitars: super Strat or pointy with humbuckers or H/S layouts, Floyd or fixed, that also has a FAT neck, approaching 1” thick at 1st and 12th frets with jumbo wire and 22-24 frets…? Neck thru, set neck or bolt on are all acceptable.
crunchee Posted July 17, 2021 Posted July 17, 2021 To satisfy my own curiosity, I did a Google search, and it seems that most guitar-oriented people on the web look at the words 'fat neck' and 'shredder guitar' as a contradiction in terms. I was able to find this web article, though...the guy who wrote the article says he loves Schecter guitars, but consistently spells it 'Shecter': https://brokeandtalented.com/top-7-metal-guitars-with-thick-necks-youll-actually-enjoy-playing-on/
FreezingPoint Posted July 17, 2021 Posted July 17, 2021 One that I know of, but it’s been a few years since I played one, was the Jackson PC-1. I see it was mentioned in that article too. Reminded me of almost a Nocaster neck from Fender, though I didn’t compare them side by side. Was very chunky neck but very comfortable. I love “shredder” guitars but generally prefer a thicker neck myself, so I know it can be a challenge.
hamerhead Posted July 18, 2021 Posted July 18, 2021 I have an '88 plain jane Cali that maybe isn't 'fat', but is the most unsheddery neck of any Floyd-equipped guitar I've played (a lot like the Diablo you had). A nice 'C' shape and a lot like my '79 LP (maybe slightly bigger). Which is why I've kept it this long. The AllParts fat necks are great, though.
Biz Prof Posted July 18, 2021 Posted July 18, 2021 4 hours ago, FreezingPoint said: One that I know of, but it’s been a few years since I played one, was the Jackson PC-1. This^^^ While I've not played one myself, I've seen several references over the years to the PC-1 necks being yooge.
RobB Posted July 18, 2021 Posted July 18, 2021 There's a $5k+ Jackson korina Rhoads (1hb/string-thru) locally at Broken Guitars Oakland (Billie Joe Armstrong's warehouse outlet...) that has THE fattest neck I've ever encountered. Bigger than GCS 57/58 LPs...it's girth is cartoonish, I tell ya. It stomps, flat out. More suited for Vai/Gilbert mitts than my fetal smoking syndrome claws. They'll never sell it...
DaveL Posted July 18, 2021 Posted July 18, 2021 Not sure if this helps. If you check the musikraft website under Charvel style necks, There are a bunch of profiles. Most are shreddery thin but there’s a few that are thicker. Not Allparts fat thick but in the .8s to the .9 something range. Guessing these are some they’ve done in the past.
holLoWskull Posted July 18, 2021 Posted July 18, 2021 I have gone through a good number of Chaparrals over the years and have kept a couple Chaparrals with what I'd consider the fatter side of medium Hamer mid-90's profile. Definitely not the norm, but somebody working in Arlington Heights in the late 80's/early 90's must have liked chunkier neck profiles on the Hamer shredders. So far I haven't run into anything in the "stock" Hamer shredders that rival early 00's Hamer "fat" though, but a very small number were not too far off.
Dave Scepter Posted July 18, 2021 Posted July 18, 2021 5 hours ago, Ed Rechts said: Um, Virtuoso anybody? A Virt doesn't have a fat neck... "wide, scalloped, D-shape"
Travis Posted July 18, 2021 Author Posted July 18, 2021 Yeah, the Jackson PC1 crossed my mind as I’ve heard it does have a chunky neck, especially compared to the typical wide/flat Jackson neck carves. Figured I’d have to end up going the Warmoth/Musikraft route to get the exact specs I’d like.
scottcald Posted July 19, 2021 Posted July 19, 2021 21 hours ago, Biz Prof said: This^^^ While I've not played one myself, I've seen several references over the years to the PC-1 necks being yooge. Probably because Phil uses 13s.
LucSulla Posted July 19, 2021 Posted July 19, 2021 On 7/17/2021 at 5:05 PM, crunchee said: To satisfy my own curiosity, I did a Google search, and it seems that most guitar-oriented people on the web look at the words 'fat neck' and 'shredder guitar' as a contradiction in terms. Never really understood that. Peter Green described the neck on Greeny as "like a tree trunk – like the tree trunk was spliced down the middle and half of it was used for your guitar neck." Never noticed that prohibiting Gary Moore from lighting everyone's hair on fire. I get referred to by other musicians around here as a "shredder" guitarist (sometimes positively, sometime negatively, depending on the taste of the person saying it) enough to feel like I can honestly say I'm a bit of a shredder. As long as the guitar has a good setup and the sting gauge isn't too far to one end of the spectrum or the other, the fatness of the neck has never really been a factor in how fast I could play, regardless of if I'm rated "shredder" or not. ETA: I don't think that means anyone can. I can't play thin necks in width worth a damn. I have giant palms but average fingers, so it just doesn't work. I just think a lot of people might not give their next #1 a shot because of the lore in the guitar community about fat necks being no good for playing fast. A lot of folks may be surprised just what their hands dig if they try stuff for themselves.
Brooks Posted July 19, 2021 Posted July 19, 2021 On 7/17/2021 at 11:11 PM, Biz Prof said: While I've not played one myself, I've seen several references over the years to the PC-1 necks being yooge. I had one, it had a big neck, too big for my tastes.
beezerboy Posted July 19, 2021 Posted July 19, 2021 Fatback Similar to: Vintage Fender® deep "U" Thickness at 1st Fret: 1.00" Thickness at 12th Fret: 1.00" The Fatback is our thickest, roundest neck profile, made for players who love a fat vintage feel. Boatneck Similar to: Vintage Tele® (52 Reissue) Thickness at 1st Fret: 1.00" Thickness at 12th Fret: 1.00" The Boatneck is the same thickness as the Fatback, with smaller shoulders. This results in the same fat feel in the palm, but easier access for the fingers and thumb. Custom Neck Profiles 59 Roundback Similar to: 1959 Gibson® Les Paul® Thickness at 1st Fret: .860" Thickness at 12th Fret: .960" The 59 Roundback is based on early Les Paul® neck dimensions. It is also our neck profile most similar to the PRS® neck shape. Clapton Similar to: Early Fender® Eric Clapton signature Strat® Thickness at 1st Fret: .850" Thickness at 12th Fret: .940" The Clapton features the soft "V" shape popularized by Eric Clapton. SRV Similar to: Early Fender® Stevie Ray Vaughan signature Strat® Thickness at 1st Fret: .835" Thickness at 12th Fret: .970" The SRV is based on an asymmetric shape popularized by Stevie Ray Vaughn. It is rounder on the thumb side and slimmer on the finger side, which gives it a nice full feel in the palm while providing easy finger access. Compared to the Wolfgang it is slightly thicker and less off-center.
beezerboy Posted July 19, 2021 Posted July 19, 2021 Stratocaster® Replacement Guitar Neck (warmoth.com) I did a build a while back with a 59 Roundback. like it a lot. I can't play some things on the skinny necks any more because my old hands. I posted the Strat page but they make these profiles (and more) in any neck style. right now they are slow....... I've have a bass neck on order for the last 2 months. normal delivery time is 4-5 weeks for a build. things in stock ship right away
chromium Posted July 19, 2021 Posted July 19, 2021 The neck pictured below made me realize that "chunky shredders" *should* be a thing! It's an older (pre-stamped) Musikraft that came to me on a different project guitar. C-profile that goes from upper .80s to mid-.90s, jumbo frets, and what feels like a 12-16" compound radius. Meaty but not massive, yet flat ('board) and fast. That one got me hooked, and so I went with even more girth on an other incoming MK neck for my blue '82 San Dimas clone project. This one is spec'd w/low-upper 90s taper, 14" radius, jumbos. Outside of custom orders, my 2006 Eric Johnson Strat has a wonderful neck in a similar vein - chunky profile, med jumbo frets, and 12" radius. It has that traditional Fender lacquer finish, but otherwise shares a lot with my MK necks in terms of feel.
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