murkat Posted April 17, 2012 Posted April 17, 2012 JLV been blacked and scraped top side. I tried talking Toby into shooting the back and neck cherry red... me thinks that set it off bigtime.. swiss cheezed sunburst in for some love condom used pre glue mock up Not much to clamp on since it is in pieces, but, it be good fill the lil mice holes too... after the headstock
zenmindbeginner Posted April 19, 2012 Posted April 19, 2012 The customer is always right.Kahlers are great. They don't suffer from tone weirdness like Floyds and perform quite well under most circumstances.Jay is tha man.
RichRS6 Posted April 19, 2012 Posted April 19, 2012 If Jay had refused to do it the owner would just have taken it elsewhere and had it done anyway so it would probably not have been repaired so expertly and we wouldn't have got to see it !!Plus it's one less nice one which makes mine more valuable!!
Scottcrud Posted April 20, 2012 Posted April 20, 2012 You guys are silly. I dig floyds and kahlers and hate fender style bridges. Great work Jaye. Always entertaining.
BCR Greg Posted April 20, 2012 Posted April 20, 2012 Actually, the Aceburst had a third pickup hole carved by a rabid squirrel, 17 holes from previous bridge monstrosity and was a 1981....I love Jay, don't get me wrong. I have talked customers into other scenarios when they asked for stuff like that. If they hold their line, somebody else DOES do it because I won't.The customer is always right until they ruin a good guitar.
serial Posted April 20, 2012 Posted April 20, 2012 Ask Elliot Easton.I was talking with him on the phone a few years back about his Phantoms and he said he had three great ones. Sounded and played great. Then he put Kahlers on two (I own the 3d unKahlered one) and the guitars were ruined.
Len Posted April 20, 2012 Posted April 20, 2012 I own the Aceburst now and it smokes with the Wraptail bridge. With all the Butchery that guitar had been thru, Greg's decision to put on that bridge was pure Genius! Its one of a kind now!
tobereeno Posted April 20, 2012 Posted April 20, 2012 I don't like how Kahlers sound; but maybe I'm just used to Floyds - I'd put a Floyd on a 4 digit Sunburst, if I really liked the guitar, and I felt certain it wouldn't kill the guitar's mojo.
jisham Posted April 20, 2012 Posted April 20, 2012 You guys are silly. I dig floyds and kahlers and hate fender style bridges. Great work Jaye. Always entertaining.This.Jay has proven over and over that his skills are hardly "hackery" and one wonders why someone would feel the need to even say so.
cmatthes Posted April 20, 2012 Posted April 20, 2012 If done right, it shouldn't be an issue. That is a nice Sunburst, but it isn't a 4-digit Standard (I had one of those that a Kahler de-mojoed), and I'm pretty sure Jay could build a D'Angelico out of chicken feces and duct tape. Whether it's the common consensus or not, some people/players prefer certain things - yes...even Kahlers. Sometimes those things are integral to their playing style, their comfort, "feel" or whatever. If (insert your favorite guitarist of all time in this slot) asked anybody here to do that mod because it was part of their sound, and they needed that to go out on a world tour, I'd think it would get done.
serial Posted April 20, 2012 Posted April 20, 2012 I like Kahlers.The Standard that Chris (and later I) owned was Brad Whitford's. Didn't get that info until after I sold it! Don't think he did the mod though.
Steve Haynie Posted April 20, 2012 Posted April 20, 2012 How does installing a Kahler ruin a good guitar?The Kahler requires routing wood out of the top and adding some screw holes. Taking the Kahler off requires filling the routed area and holes with wood. If the guitar has a flame top the repair requires a new veneer or chunk of matching maple and some refinish work. Even when it is done right there will be a stigma attached to the guitar for having such a repair.
BCR Greg Posted April 20, 2012 Posted April 20, 2012 You guys are silly. I dig floyds and kahlers and hate fender style bridges. Great work Jaye. Always entertaining.This.Jay has proven over and over that his skills are hardly "hackery" and one wonders why someone would feel the need to even say so.Because Jay and I are friends, and it's a boyish nudge at the man. Sorry if you didn't get that, you'll be okay.
zenmindbeginner Posted April 20, 2012 Posted April 20, 2012 I'm pretty sure Jay could build a D'Angelico out of chicken feces and duct tape. Ol' sticky stanky.
unfun75 Posted April 21, 2012 Posted April 21, 2012 How does installing a Kahler ruin a good guitar?The Kahler requires routing wood out of the top and adding some screw holes.Taking the Kahler off requires filling the routed area and holes with wood. If the guitar has a flame top the repair requires a new veneer or chunk of matching maple and some refinish work. Even when it is done right there will be a stigma attached to the guitar for having such a repair.Thanks. I don't know much about the Kahler trem system.
tbonesullivan Posted April 21, 2012 Posted April 21, 2012 NICE!!! but DAMN those two hamers have been through a LOT.What the heck did they have installed on the first one with the headstock break? 8 holes? Looks like something rectangular was stuck on there as well.As for the second one with the heel break, that's one great repair job. Isn't easy to fix, and I've never seen someone use those dowels like that. What kind of wood are they? Also, was the body of the guitar splitting too? I noticed you put a strap on the back, and pinned it in. sounds like the guitar had some serious structural issues. I don't like kahlers, but other's do, and I don't see what is so bad about putting one on that guitar. It's not like it's a gleaming mint guitar from the late 70s. That guitar is a player, and has been around the block. It's a tool after all.I mean, it's not a 59 Les Paul, and it's not a 50's Strat that has never been touched. It's a player's guitar, and putting the kahler on will help it get more played.
lincsman Posted April 21, 2012 Posted April 21, 2012 You guys are silly. I dig floyds and kahlers and hate fender style bridges. Great work Jaye. Always entertaining.This.Jay has proven over and over that his skills are hardly "hackery" and one wonders why someone would feel the need to even say so.+1 well said
lincsman Posted April 21, 2012 Posted April 21, 2012 You guys are silly. I dig floyds and kahlers and hate fender style bridges. Great work Jaye. Always entertaining. This. Jay has proven over and over that his skills are hardly "hackery" and one wonders why someone would feel the need to even say so. Because Jay and I are friends, and it's a boyish nudge at the man. Sorry if you didn't get that, you'll be okay. Sorry posted frist link then read this.
hardheartedbill Posted April 21, 2012 Posted April 21, 2012 I cant believe you can still get kahlers. Nos?
Scottcrud Posted April 23, 2012 Posted April 23, 2012 I cant believe you can still get kahlers. Nos?You can get them brand new through wammiworld.com . They're being made again, certain popular players such as Jerry Cantrell, Kerry King and Jeff Hanneman kept them alive.
tbonesullivan Posted April 23, 2012 Posted April 23, 2012 Can't you also get them directly through www.kahlerusa.com?They do seem to be a bunch more expensive direct though. They brought the company back, but really haven't been gaining much headway into getting back into the trem mainstream.
cmatthes Posted April 23, 2012 Posted April 23, 2012 The price per unit in 2012 dollars is probably equivalent to what they cost back in the mid-80s.
svl Posted April 23, 2012 Posted April 23, 2012 The cost of a new Kahler 7300 trem- $169.00 The price to rout a guitar for said Kahler- $150 The ability to piss off opinionated Interwebz guitar snobs- Priceless
svl Posted April 24, 2012 Posted April 24, 2012 Yeah, me too. Too bad it never has to be the other guy...
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JLV been blacked and scraped top side.
I tried talking Toby into shooting the back and neck cherry red... me thinks that set it off bigtime..
swiss cheezed sunburst in for some love
condom used pre glue mock up
Not much to clamp on since it is in pieces, but, it be good
fill the lil mice holes too... after the headstock
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