bubs_42 Posted March 17, 2014 Posted March 17, 2014 The Tally body style could work as McChris described. Reverse Steve Stevens headstock and it'd be perfect! Sounds like the guitar I spec'd before they shuttered... So are we talking Sustainblock, then I'm on board.
bcsride Posted March 17, 2014 Posted March 17, 2014 Gibson LP for $800http://www.musiciansfriend.com/guitars/gibson-lpj-pro-electric-guitarwork on man.It isn't the $1000 guitar folks want. I doubt if it is even a $1000 Hamer - if that Hamer had the same compromises the linked Gibson has.We want a $1000 Hamer CO. I want the Newport 90 with center block and sustain block bridge, ebony, sparkly gold top, and victories. An hell yes, let me pay $1000 for it.I've also got ideas for a few CO basses I'd love to pay $1000 for.I think anyone would be hard pressed to get this thinghttp://www.lostartvintage.com/Categoryinfo.aspx?categoryid=8&categoryitem=143&itemid=727&country=usdown to $1000.
cmatthes Posted March 17, 2014 Posted March 17, 2014 Those guitars will NEVER be $1,000.The concept behind a "WMG", is a stripped down, no-frills, tone machine. That's the space the Specials filled. Once you start blinging things up, you've moved past the WMG range.
Northfield Posted March 17, 2014 Author Posted March 17, 2014 My latest idea would be a double-cut or Tally shape, all 'hog, HB in bridge, P90 or Mini-HB in neck (choice), Sustain Block, dots, no binding, 2 vol/1 tone, 3-way toggle, with an upgraded maple top option. I'm sure this same idea was proposed multiple times earlier. But, how about a no-finish, send straight to Stike, option???That is a great idea that would help to bring the price down on this end.
Tres Aardvarks Posted March 17, 2014 Posted March 17, 2014 I think anyone would be hard pressed to get this thinghttp://www.lostartvintage.com/Categoryinfo.aspx?categoryid=8&categoryitem=143&itemid=727&country=usdown to $1000.Holy hell! What did you go and post that for? Meeeow! I've been eyeing up jazz boxes for a while and this is totally lust worthy(especially given the builder himself)And no, a jazz box isn't a working man's guitar, nor will you get one like that for $1000. But Hamer did make an import jazzer!
bubs_42 Posted March 17, 2014 Posted March 17, 2014 My latest idea would be a double-cut or Tally shape, all 'hog, HB in bridge, P90 or Mini-HB in neck (choice), Sustain Block, dots, no binding, 2 vol/1 tone, 3-way toggle, with an upgraded maple top option. I'm sure this same idea was proposed multiple times earlier. But, how about a no-finish, send straight to Stike, option??? That is a great idea that would help to bring the price down on this end. I would vote for P90's. I know the first thing that I would do to it.
cmatthes Posted March 17, 2014 Posted March 17, 2014 I still think a doublecut or TLE/Talladega body with a 4-digit style Standard headstock would do the trick.
JohnnyB Posted March 18, 2014 Posted March 18, 2014 You could significantly drop the price by going boltneck because the body and neck can be finished separately and a boltneck doesn't require all the finicky sanding and finishing at the neck joint. I've had some high quality boltnecks that totally kicked ass, especially a USA-made G&L ASAT Special. What if you used a T-51 layout with P-90s? That would be a WMG and a solid rocker to boot. Or an HB for the bridge. But ya gotta decide on one PU config or the other for economy of scale.
unfun75 Posted March 18, 2014 Posted March 18, 2014 I think Master Northfield was referring to my "send to Stike" option as the cost-saving measure. A bolt-on would save money, too, but it wouldn't be just another "F" guitar? Unless, of course, we're talking Cali shapes!
Jason01 Posted March 18, 2014 Posted March 18, 2014 You could significantly drop the price by going boltneck because the body and neck can be finished separately and a boltneck doesn't require all the finicky sanding and finishing at the neck joint. I've had some high quality boltnecks that totally kicked ass, especially a USA-made G&L ASAT Special. What if you used a T-51 layout with P-90s? That would be a WMG and a solid rocker to boot. Or an HB for the bridge. But ya gotta decide on one PU config or the other for economy of scale.If they did a t-51 with p-90s can we call it a P-51? I like mustangs....
Biz Prof Posted March 18, 2014 Posted March 18, 2014 My latest idea would be a double-cut or Tally shape, all 'hog, HB in bridge, P90 or Mini-HB in neck (choice), Sustain Block, dots, no binding, 2 vol/1 tone, 3-way toggle, with an upgraded maple top option. I'm sure this same idea was proposed multiple times earlier. But, how about a no-finish, send straight to Stike, option???That is a great idea that would help to bring the price down on this end.When I was actually a working guitarist in the late 80s/early 90s, a P90 Hamer Special was the only USA-made new guitar I could afford. The reason I wanted a Hamer so badly is that of all the ones I'd test driven, I'd not come across a single dog. The neck joints were rock solid, the woodwork true, and the fretwork flawless. That was much more important to me than bling, although I'd have taken a Standard at the same price in a heartbeat. A real WMG needs to be what I've just described: solid construction, attention to functional details, good components, and little/no bling. Although they look a little odd, I do think that the SD P-Rails offer serious versatility for the "working man".If you wanted to stretch the concept within the boundaries of reason, one might copy Reverend's model of a set neck vs. bolt-on versions of the same basic design. Set neck versions could use the Gibson scale, while the bolt-on versions could employ the 25.5" scale. Just a thought.
cmatthes Posted March 18, 2014 Posted March 18, 2014 The bolt on concept won't work. Too much out there, unless you're talking Californians.
Hbom Posted March 18, 2014 Posted March 18, 2014 History has shown that I have already bought all of the bolt neck guitars I'll need. That's how I moved on to Hamer. As a cork sniffer I prefer glue please.
gorch Posted March 18, 2014 Posted March 18, 2014 Working man guitar. Buy a used Mexican strat. All replacable parts, easy to get. Not what I need though.
lang Posted March 18, 2014 Posted March 18, 2014 My latest idea would be a double-cut or Tally shape, all 'hog, HB in bridge, P90 or Mini-HB in neck (choice), Sustain Block, dots, no binding, 2 vol/1 tone, 3-way toggle, with an upgraded maple top option. I'm sure this same idea was proposed multiple times earlier. But, how about a no-finish, send straight to Stike, option???I really hope this happens. If this ends up being set-neck / sustain-block / talledega or double-cut shape, I'd do my best to find a way to be in.Seriously, how cool would it be to have a "working man's" version of a Tally? A tally in the spirit of an early 80's special? Or a "re-issue" of an early 80's special? How awesome would that be?!Perhaps another way to keep costs down would be for us purchase our own pickups for this project and provide them for the build?
velorush Posted March 19, 2014 Posted March 19, 2014 I really hope this happens. If this ends up being set-neck / sustain-block / talledega or double-cut shape, I'd do my best to find a way to be in. Seriously, how cool would it be to have a "working man's" version of a Tally? A tally in the spirit of an early 80's special? Or a "re-issue" of an early 80's special? How awesome would that be?! Ten pages over three months and we're back to this: Kiz, you're a genius!
Bobby Marshall Posted March 19, 2014 Posted March 19, 2014 Whatever the style, to go along with unfinished, how about only one or two pickup routes, our choice but no pickups installed. Let's face it, no one will ever agree on pickups, so put that towards getting a great built guitar and add your choice of pickup to taste since most do that anyway. A Tally Pro with plain top would be phenomenal. Or a Standard with paper thin top like old days. How about no inlays!!! Just side dots. That has to save some time. Transfer for the headstock too. Wraparound bridge like a Tally Pro is 100% working man. No finish, no pickups, no inlays. Schaller minis. The Butcher guitar comes to mind!!! (picture courtesy of BCR Music & Sound) If she has to have pickups two options, triple bucker and P90 or dual hum. Use savings for a 4 digit headstock!!!
unfun75 Posted March 19, 2014 Posted March 19, 2014 I'm totally hip to the "provide your own pickups" idea. A choice of routes would be cool. I'm thinking just a coil-tapped bridge HB.Question... if the WMG is unfinished, would it be shipped fully assembled or not?
Bobby Marshall Posted March 19, 2014 Posted March 19, 2014 Needs to be assembled and set up by the Hamer master builders.That's what makes it a Hamer. Those people. The team that was built and trained from Wilmette all the way to CT. Making great guitars because it needed to be done.
hamerhead Posted March 19, 2014 Posted March 19, 2014 Flat-top 'hog Tally with Standard headstock and Sustain Block. Simple and unique.
bubs_42 Posted March 19, 2014 Posted March 19, 2014 Like the Flat Top idea and Sustain Block, hate the Standard Headstock part. It would be like an awsome TLE with a better neck profile.
hamerhead Posted March 19, 2014 Posted March 19, 2014 What kind of commie doesn't like a Standard headstock?!?
bubs_42 Posted March 19, 2014 Posted March 19, 2014 On a Standard YES, On a Studio YES, On a Special YES, heck on a Vector YES, on a Tally Style NOOOOO. IMHO of course. 6 Inline like the an SS would be cool.
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