ajm1966 Posted March 1, 2015 Posted March 1, 2015 https://reverb.com/item/518219-hamer-sunburst-1979-sunburstnot mine
hanspanzer Posted March 1, 2015 Posted March 1, 2015 http://www.hamerfanclub.com/forums/topic/69228-79-sunburstngd/
DBraz Posted March 1, 2015 Posted March 1, 2015 If I could I would. That is exactly the sort of sunburst that I admire.
ARM OF HAMER Posted March 1, 2015 Posted March 1, 2015 NO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! HE just got that!
kizanski Posted March 1, 2015 Posted March 1, 2015 NO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! HE just got that! LOL
ARM OF HAMER Posted March 1, 2015 Posted March 1, 2015 Well.............. I'm aware that Brent flips many of his guitars..........................OK most of his guitars................ there for awhile he had 0 Hamers.He bought that Chaparral then got this real nice Sunburst then he bought the Black Sunburst "Jr." that JT owned and that MURKAT built.Looked like he had a great little stable of Hamers.He said on a post long ago one of his biggest mistakes was selling that Black 78 B&C'd Black Hamer Sunburst so...................OK maybe the Black JT turned out not to be just what he wanted but this one is a beauty.
Greg G Posted March 1, 2015 Posted March 1, 2015 Dusted off my copy of the Book. Hamer began the 3-piece neck with S/N 9 1016 and this one predates that. Experts, could one expect neck "twisting" issues with one of this vintage? Just curious. Is it hit and miss? Thanks.
LucSulla Posted March 1, 2015 Posted March 1, 2015 Speaking from my own experience (and I have no idea at all if this is true for Brent), it is really easy to get more into the feeling of getting a new guitar than having a guitar that you like. When the itch to have that new-guitar-feeling hits, you will part with some stuff you couldn't have imagined selling a month ago. I finally made a rule that no Hamers go out anymore, and I am trying to find cheaper bits of the guitar universe - tubes, pedals, cabs, pickups - that give me that NGD feeling without the financial investment. Plus eating 10% of the price of a pedal you didn't dig is a lot easier than eating 10% of a $1500 guitar that you thought you had to have but later realized you were only "chasing the dragon" so to speak. Once again, not saying this is necessarily Brent, and I do know some of his income is derived from selling guitars online. However, I wouldn't be shocked if there is a Christmas Day syndrome similar to the one I started to develop that at least plays a small role. And all in all, it isn't like being hooked on smack. He has flipped some stuff with which I would have a hard time parting I think awfully quick, but if he enjoys spending a couple of weeks working out something that caught his eye before looking for the next love, I can't begrudge his fun.
mrjamiam Posted March 1, 2015 Posted March 1, 2015 Speaking from my own experience (and I have no idea at all if this is true for Brent), it is really easy to get more into the feeling of getting a new guitar than having a guitar that you like. When the itch to have that new-guitar-feeling hits, you will part with some stuff you couldn't have imagined selling a month ago. I finally made a rule that no Hamers go out anymore, and I am trying to find cheaper bits of the guitar universe - tubes, pedals, cabs, pickups - that give me that NGD feeling without the financial investment. Plus eating 10% of the price of a pedal you didn't dig is a lot easier than eating 10% of a $1500 guitar that you thought you had to have but later realized you were only "chasing the dragon" so to speak. Bingo! So again, I'm not a special snowflake. Except I don't have the "no Hamers go out" rule - yet.
LucSulla Posted March 2, 2015 Posted March 2, 2015 I sold two I really liked. Luckily, they are easily replaced and I came to me senses before I dumped my standard.
ARM OF HAMER Posted March 2, 2015 Posted March 2, 2015 The thrill of the chase isn't always rewarded with purchase and ownership[All the more so when you can't actually see and play the guitar in person prior to buying it].............I understand people part with things for many different reasons.I found [Well one was found for me} my 2 Black 79 Hamer "Sunbursts" [The first one has a one piece neck with no issues, the later one has a 3 piece] and after all I went through to get them they are staying put! ................these ARE my last instruments and GREAT ones they are.
velorush Posted March 2, 2015 Posted March 2, 2015 Dusted off my copy of the Book. Hamer began the 3-piece neck with S/N 9 1016 and this one predates that. Experts, could one expect neck "twisting" issues with one of this vintage? Just curious. Is it hit and miss? Thanks. I'll take a stab: 1. Read all of the part in the book about the twisty necks, specifically, which necks were twisting (p. 53). The problem stemmed from pre-fab crowned fretboards that were outsourced. Those boards did not allow Tom Holmes to radius them after the necks were glued. Dot fretboards were glued to the necks and then radiused after they'd stabilized (as Hamer did when they began manufacturing their own necks). 2. This guitar is 36 years old. I figure if it was going to twist it would have already twisted by now. ETA: that's not to say a dot-fret Sunburst couldn't twist, but the 'twist issue' (at least as I read "The BOOK") was crown-specific and for a known reason. I had a Strat neck twist on me because of what the Fender warranty rep termed "soft maple" It's wood. Each piece is unique.
ARM OF HAMER Posted March 2, 2015 Posted March 2, 2015 Sure I have read the "THE BOOK" cover to cover more than once. Its well documented here on the HFC and in "THE BOOK" that the reason many of the Holmes era B&C'd Sunbursts had neck issues WAS because of the warped fingerboards Holmes received[being purchased from Gibson and later the same vendor Gibson used] to be used on those guitars.................Holmes alerted Hamer of the issue with the fingerboards and he was told to use them anyway as those guitars needed to be shipped out right away. I guess my first Black Sunburst made it through OK............ its serial number is 9 0625 so its not super early.............maybe Tom Holmes got some straight B&C'd fingerboards to use by then.
sixesandsevens Posted March 3, 2015 Posted March 3, 2015 And all in all, it isn't like being hooked on smack. Oh, yeah, you could stop any time...
Hamer Dave Posted March 3, 2015 Posted March 3, 2015 Don't forget being one piece neck can make it susceptible.
velorush Posted March 3, 2015 Posted March 3, 2015 Don't forget being one piece neck can make it susceptible. Yes, and I'm susceptible to gall bladder disease, but since I'm not female, fertile, fat and forty, I'm susceptible, but not considered "at risk." Hamer's three-piece neck is a marvel of engineering (not to mention good common sense), but the fact of the matter is 85% (absolute wild guess, but conservative in my estimation) of the guitars in the population have one-piece necks. Twisting is not a rampant problem. Secondly, my point from THE BOOK seems to have been completely missed. As I read the narrative, the problem with the early Hamers was extremely limited and was not the result of warped pre-fab fretboards (as is implied above), it happened when (again, specifically) pre-fab crowned fretboards were used. There was nothing wrong with these fretboards, but the fact that they were already crowned precluded the ability for further machining. The fretboards were glued to the necks and could not be further machined after settling in (i.e., doing what wood does). Hamer Dave, I mean no disrespect to you, personally (and I regret if it appears that way), or anyone else for that matter, but my gosh we're off in a ditch "internet-foruming" the crap out of what seems to be a perfectly worthwhile guitar, and a beauty, at that. If I am wrong in any way I will gladly receive correction and confess my shortcomings, ignorance and short-sightedness. Abused instruments aside, has anyone heard of a straight, one-piece Sunburst neck warping in the last ten years? Dot or crowned? I'm very curious.
vicjoy1945 Posted March 3, 2015 Posted March 3, 2015 Ah well...guitar was sold (off Reverb I assume). I sent Brent a PM pretty much right away after I saw it there thinking he removed it but alas it was "long gone"...next time !!
LucSulla Posted March 3, 2015 Posted March 3, 2015 And all in all, it isn't like being hooked on smack. Oh, yeah, you could stop any time... There are sex worker jokes that I am not making right now on this board.
atomicwash Posted March 3, 2015 Posted March 3, 2015 Don't forget being one piece neck can make it susceptible.Secondly, my point from THE BOOK seems to have been completely missed. As I read the narrative, the problem with the early Hamers was extremely limited and was not the result of warped pre-fab fretboards (as is implied above), it happened when (again, specifically) pre-fab crowned fretboards were used. There was nothing wrong with these fretboards, but the fact that they were already crowned precluded the ability for further machining. The fretboards were glued to the necks and could not be further machined after settling in (i.e., doing what wood does). That part of the BOOK was really intense. I had to keep hiding my head under the covers!
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