Disturber Posted October 21, 2015 Posted October 21, 2015 I just watched a vid of Joe trying out a maple fretboard LP Custom and the playing there wasn't memorable, just fast pentatonic runs, and they did remind me of Eric Johnson. I feel like Joe's got the technical part down, but need work on the rest. I'm not sure what exactly he needs to "work on,", seeing as he's decades into a career that by conventional measures is quite successful. He sure needs to work on his guitar face! He just looks to bored.
kizanski Posted October 21, 2015 Posted October 21, 2015 I just watched a vid of Joe trying out a maple fretboard LP Custom and the playing there wasn't memorable, just fast pentatonic runs, and they did remind me of Eric Johnson. I feel like Joe's got the technical part down, but need work on the rest.I'm not sure what exactly he needs to "work on,", seeing as he's decades into a career that by conventional measures is quite successful.Really, Joe... Keep plugging away. You'll get there.
scottcald Posted October 21, 2015 Posted October 21, 2015 I'm not sure what exactly he needs to "work on,", seeing as he's decades into a career that by conventional measures is quite successful.To me, when I hear him, I don't think "That's Joe Bonamassa", I think, "I hear Joe sounding like this person or Joe imitating that person" with his playing and singing. I don't get a true Joe Bonamassa identity, which I think he should have by this point.
scottcald Posted October 21, 2015 Posted October 21, 2015 Just to be clear, I don't hate Joe, nor am I disparaging anyone for liking him, he seems like a cool guy, just giving my impressions of when I listen to him.
Disturber Posted October 21, 2015 Posted October 21, 2015 I totally dig Black Country Communion. Good stuff. Did they put the band to rest, or are they just on a hiatus?
atquinn Posted October 21, 2015 Posted October 21, 2015 I totally dig Black Country Communion. Good stuff. Did they put the band to rest, or are they just on a hiatus?IIRC Glenn threw a hissy fit and Joe B. broke it up.-Austin
cmatthes Posted October 21, 2015 Posted October 21, 2015 If I could get over the boredom he inspires, maybe I'd give a crap. Sorry - the dude can definitely play, but there isn't a damned thing that makes me want to give his stuff a spin. Even his video stuff on YouTube bores me silly. If I could get over the boredom he inspires, maybe I'd give a crap. Sorry - the dude can definitely play, but there isn't a damned thing that makes me want to give his stuff a spin. Even his videos on YouTube bore me silly. I'm not a shred fan, but can listen to or watch Paul Gilbert any time. Huge diff.
MCChris Posted October 21, 2015 Author Posted October 21, 2015 Blooze rhymes with snooze for a reason.HEY-O!The man had some fire during the Fenders-into-Jubilees days. Then came the image consultants.
BillW Posted October 21, 2015 Posted October 21, 2015 I thinks he's very talented. I wish I could play like him.But, I have a hard time listening to more than a few minutes ...I mean...I do an impersonation of him...it basically consists of a certain nasal singing style and words like "Get on back, fire it up, move on down, livin in the back room ...etc..." and other Blues based cliche phrases...with his usual vocal runs...you get the idea...But his tone is awesome, his chops are awesome...
velorush Posted October 21, 2015 Posted October 21, 2015 I'm not a shred fan, but can listen to or watch Paul Gilbert any time. Huge diff. Now that is an interesting comparison / observation and bears some thought. I find myself in the same camp. What is it about Gilbert? I find myself captivated by his videos doing, well, anything, but Bonamassa, (for whom I have utmost respect and stand in awe of his chops and tone) doesn't provide that same vibe. I mean, here's Paul (with Nathan East) riffing on ONE CHORD - still, I am engaged throughout. I think Gilbert has that same thing Phil X brings to the table: an absolute and complete joy of just playing guitar. Phil X (like Gilbert) has incredible chops and throws out some outlandish runs, but it never seems to be an 'in your face,' 'hey look what I can do' kind of thing, it always seems to come as much of a joyful 'wow, what was that?' surprise as to those listening. They seem to include the listener ("we're doing this") rather than stand alone as a performer ("I am doing this"). Or not... But I really do like Joe, think it's great he has the resources and interest to collect the guitars he's collected, like Clapton, I think I enjoy him more in the context of a band rather than as a solo artist, but I couldn't sit through the entire Royal Albert Hall performance when it was broadcast by Palladia.
it's me HHB Posted October 21, 2015 Posted October 21, 2015 Blooze rhymes with snooze for a reason.HEY-The man had some fire during the Fenders-into-Jubilees days. Then came the image consultants. Oh he wanted it bad, told me as much to my face.The problem is he brings zero original thinking combined with a passion for Fame rather than playing to his act IMO. SRV wasn't original but he could touch you cause you knew he meant it, you felt it in your bones. Jack White isn't that great but you know he means it, JB phones it in, granted it on a gold plated phone with great reception. I'm not him, I'm not famous and I doubt I could keep up with him for long, but time its painfully obvious. Having said that only I should care what I think lol
MCChris Posted October 21, 2015 Author Posted October 21, 2015 Oh he wanted it bad, told me as much to my face.I'm not suggesting anyone held a gun to his head. And again, he is doing extremely well in his career. The formula is working for him. Not so much for the rest of us who would prefer that he live in squalor or be forced to hold a day job in order to maintain his artistic integrity.
it's me HHB Posted October 21, 2015 Posted October 21, 2015 You're right, its just I can't call Britney Areatha
it's me HHB Posted October 21, 2015 Posted October 21, 2015 And for the record it just above squalor into " challenging " lol
hamerhead Posted October 21, 2015 Posted October 21, 2015 ...... JB phones it in, granted it on a gold plated phone with great reception. .......That's probably as painfully accurate a description as I've ever seen and it made me laugh. Good one, Bill!
hamerhead Posted October 21, 2015 Posted October 21, 2015 I have to add that I've liked Joe from the first time I heard him. He's got the chops of everybody.But with that, he's kinda like the Frank Caliendo of guitar - he can sound exactly like everybody else while having no real identifiable voice of his own.
cmatthes Posted October 21, 2015 Posted October 21, 2015 I think Gilbert has that same thing Phil X brings to the table: an absolute and complete joy of just playing guitar. Phil X (like Gilbert) has incredible chops and throws out some outlandish runs, but it never seems to be an 'in your face,' 'hey look what I can do' kind of thing, it always seems to come as much of a joyful 'wow, what was that?' surprise as to those listening. They seem to include the listener ("we're doing this") rather than stand alone as a performer ("I am doing this"). I think that sums up how I feel about it. There's joy in Paul (and PhilX)'s playing that is just completely absent in Joe's. When those guys smile as they're playing, you know they have to be thinking "I can't believe I'm playing this awesome stuff - isn't this COOL?! Seriously, check this OUT, man!!". Joe's thought balloon would more likely say "Check ME out, mere mortal. Note the crispness of my collar, and the immobility of my hair gel...and can you believe these shoes cost more than this Les Paul?"
devrock Posted October 21, 2015 Posted October 21, 2015 I like Joe a lot, but I have sort of taken a break from him. Saw him 5 or 6 times over the past 4 years or so and just grew sort of....tired of him. I'm always blown away by how accurate he is. I dare you to find him making a mistake. I was at the Beacon show that is on DVD/BR and that show gave me chills (the Gary Moore cover he did and the two songs with Beth Hart...oh my god). He has plenty of moments in any show that I'm just shaking my head in awe at. But, after a while, I felt like I was getting the same show or less. I had zero interest in this 3 Kings tour he's doing right now. Also, his ticket prices have skyrocketed the past few years.
DBraz Posted October 21, 2015 Posted October 21, 2015 I really like a lot of what Joe does - ie the fav's - but he does have a lot of album fillers.Paul Gilbert has been my favourite guitarist since the moment I first saw him.
Biz Prof Posted October 21, 2015 Posted October 21, 2015 Joe plays well...very well. Paul plays even better, and is absolute hoot. A gifted musician and comedian.
Disturber Posted October 22, 2015 Posted October 22, 2015 I totally dig Black Country Communion. Good stuff. Did they put the band to rest, or are they just on a hiatus?IIRC Glenn threw a hissy fit and Joe B. broke it up.-AustinYeah, read it on the web yesterday. Found out Glenn and Jason did an album under the name California Breed after BCC. Totally missed it. Liked that guitarist better than Bonamassa, when I listened through the album last night. He's a younger guy called Andrew Watt. He plays with more variation, varies his sounds more and just has a broader approach. Very talented guy.http://www.vintageguitar.com/19762/andrew-watt/
Ting Ho Dung Posted October 22, 2015 Posted October 22, 2015 Just checked it out. Kid plays aggressively. I like that. I don't care much for Joe. I don't care for his voice. His playing is stellar but not my style. My friend Frank is Mr. Joe B everything so I hear it from him nearly every day. He's one that buys the lithos and buys into the meet and greets. Next time he calls I'll ask him if he's going to get the links. ETA: Just found this one with a hot chick
MCChris Posted October 22, 2015 Author Posted October 22, 2015 This is some good stuff. You'll notice, though, that he's playing a smallish venue in Ft. Wayne, Indiana. Since transforming into a smooth bluesman, he now plays places like the Royal Albert Hall, the Chicago Theatre and Radio City Music Hall. Had he kept going with this songwriting direction I believe he could have made a big splash in the modern country realm and possibly filled arenas a la Paisley and Urban. His muse and his advisers had other ideas.
Ting Ho Dung Posted October 22, 2015 Posted October 22, 2015 This is some good stuff. You'll notice, though, that he's playing a smallish venue in Ft. Wayne, Indiana. Since transforming into a smooth bluesman, he now plays places like the Royal Albert Hall, the Chicago Theatre and Radio City Music Hall. Had he kept going with this songwriting direction I believe he could have made a big splash in the modern country realm and possibly filled arenas a la Paisley and Urban. His muse and his advisers had other ideas. When did he switch to Gibson? My friend tells me he used to play Strats too. I liked that song quite a bit. If he had a decent singer it would be great.
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