LucSulla Posted December 19, 2014 Posted December 19, 2014 Funny thing about Gilbert is that he did not start off as a shredder. I watched an interview where he said growing up that he was actually known more as a slow player and that the shredding was actually something that came much later. Of course he started playing at 9, so I have no idea what that timeline looks like. But it was an interesting thing to say. He's probably my favorite shredder. I seems to really get that it all starts with rhythm and groover and that everything else is just the cherry on top. I also think the sense of humor and touch in his music makes it something a lot more entertaining than your usual wanking off. ^Basic shit that guitar-hero vids rarely ever talk about.
boundandcrowned Posted December 20, 2014 Posted December 20, 2014 A few additional facts about the original Ibanez Iceman Model: it was designed by Fumio "Fritz" Katoh and was first introduced in 1975 still under the name "Artist" as many other higher level Ibanez guitars. Originally there were three all mahogany models, one with two humbuckers, the other two with triple coil pickups: one with fixed pickup in bridge position (the so called "Steve Miller Model"; later he had a one-of-a-kind version with active 3-band EQ!!! ), the other with a sliding pickup!!! In 1978 the Iceman line was set up with new models: one cheap bolt-on neck version, the "Steve Miller" triple coil model, the mahogany two-humbucker model and the top-of-the-line IC-400 with a gently carved two piece plain maple top. Take a short look a the pictures below (it' a 1978)! And there was another one entirely made out of ash called the "Korina-Model" because of its color. In 1981 the Iceman II with new 6-in-line headstock was introduced: again one simple bolt-on neck guitar and a new IC-400 with figured maple top. They were discontinued in 1982. So the original run of the Iceman ended. The Iceman series of the 70s have never been very popular so there are not too many around. So if you find one in good shape: grab it or tell me! These are great guitars. Even Tom Petty (another one of my all time favorites) has been photographed embracing an Iceman. I hope it wasn't too boring but I'm still so in love with that guitar!!! Hope you like it too Michael
Armitage Posted December 20, 2014 Posted December 20, 2014 I had one of those too! Or maybe the model below, I don't remember it having gold hardware. I foolishly sold it and regretted it the next day. I loved the color too!
LefThanDed Posted December 20, 2014 Posted December 20, 2014 Maddening for me to look at that "flipped-over-lefty" Iceman body (aka "The Fireman"). And I like that zany Paul Gilbert... but still smh.
serial Posted December 20, 2014 Posted December 20, 2014 And my old '78 3 coil. Had a really difficult finding a buyer for this one, even though they're stupidly rare and are fantastic guitars.
hrtatak Posted December 20, 2014 Posted December 20, 2014 The Fireman they make for Paul Gilbert is basically a lefty Iceman flopped over, so I see no reason why they can't make a me a lefty Paul Stanley Iceman now. I don't even care if the longer tip of the headstock is on the bottom as long as the logo ain't upside down.
Jason01 Posted December 21, 2014 Posted December 21, 2014 The "Iceman" was the renamed Artist model from '75 or so. The Nielsen model was a blue Greco Mirage - same guitar. I think the guitar from the design contest was a cherry sunburst Greco one with a Vee head and bowtie inlays. I think the idea for the later "Uncle Dick" guitar also came from that contest. Its like the grandfather of the scarab!
David B Posted December 21, 2014 Posted December 21, 2014 A few additional facts about the original Ibanez Iceman Model: it was designed by Fumio "Fritz" Katoh and was first introduced in 1975 still under the name "Artist" as many other higher level Ibanez guitars. Originally there were three all mahogany models, one with two humbuckers, the other two with triple coil pickups: one with fixed pickup in bridge position (the so called "Steve Miller Model"; later he had a one-of-a-kind version with active 3-band EQ!!! ), the other with a sliding pickup!!! In 1978 the Iceman line was set up with new models: one cheap bolt-on neck version, the "Steve Miller" triple coil model, the mahogany two-humbucker model and the top-of-the-line IC-400 with a gently carved two piece plain maple top. Take a short look a the pictures below (it' a 1978)! And there was another one entirely made out of ash called the "Korina-Model" because of its color. In 1981 the Iceman II with new 6-in-line headstock was introduced: again one simple bolt-on neck guitar and a new IC-400 with figured maple top. They were discontinued in 1982. So the original run of the Iceman ended. The Iceman series of the 70s have never been very popular so there are not too many around. So if you find one in good shape: grab it or tell me! These are great guitars. Even Tom Petty (another one of my all time favorites) has been photographed embracing an Iceman. I hope it wasn't too boring but I'm still so in love with that guitar!!! Hope you like it too Michael I got one exactly like this one for $225 back in the day. It was a MONSTER. Everything about it was amazing.
Montelovesco Posted December 21, 2014 Posted December 21, 2014 Glad to see that model back after all the shitty crap he's been endorsing for the last couple of decades... Beside those shitty stuff he endorsed during the last decades (and not to talk about the coffee commercial that popped up recently) I really dig some of the stuff he did with - guess? - Washburn (Yes, I know...). I really liked the Preacher, and some of his other signature stuff. And I really would like to try the Starfire, even if it is just a reinterpretation/copy of the Firebird...
crunchee Posted December 21, 2014 Posted December 21, 2014 Glad to see that model back after all the shitty crap he's been endorsing for the last couple of decades... Beside those shitty stuff he endorsed during the last decades (and not to talk about the coffee commercial that popped up recently) I really dig some of the stuff he did with - guess? - Washburn (Yes, I know...). I really liked the Preacher, and some of his other signature stuff. And I really would like to try the Starfire, even if it is just a reinterpretation/copy of the Firebird... Makes me wonder if there was a tie-in (though not a very good or strong one) with KISS' Psycho Circus? Creepy. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PhRHSLUqiHk
cmatthes Posted December 21, 2014 Posted December 21, 2014 My god that was awful.That should be featured on the next Pod of Thunder.
Steve Haynie Posted December 21, 2014 Posted December 21, 2014 At least Folger's is a manly coffee. ... Isn't it?
crunchee Posted December 21, 2014 Posted December 21, 2014 At least Folger's is a manly coffee. ... Isn't it? Needs more heavy metal:
Hackubus Posted December 21, 2014 Posted December 21, 2014 "The best part of waking up, is soldiers in your butt!"Paul Stanley
LordOfTheThighs Posted December 22, 2014 Posted December 22, 2014 I'd like to pick up one of the new PS10s, as long as they're manufactured in Japan. No Chi-Com bullshit.Pricing point prediction: $2500I liked the Washburn PS2000. But it was even a bit to rad, for a cellar dweller like me.
Steve Haynie Posted December 22, 2014 Posted December 22, 2014 The last Paul Stanley Icemans in 1995 were priced somewhere in the $2000 - 2500 range. Mine was $1500 at a discount. So, you are correct the new ones probably will be at least $2500 out the door.
it's me HHB Posted December 22, 2014 Posted December 22, 2014 My friend had an original in high school. His always looked green to me, think it was supposed to be slate gray. Sounded great with a wide thin neck that I hated
cmatthes Posted December 22, 2014 Posted December 22, 2014 They had an "Olive" finish in the late '70s for a couple of years. I wonder if that's what it was?
it's me HHB Posted December 22, 2014 Posted December 22, 2014 Had to have been, olive is the exact color, they nailed it lol
Steve Haynie Posted December 22, 2014 Posted December 22, 2014 A friend had a bolt on Iceman back in high school. It was a metallic gray.
cmatthes Posted December 22, 2014 Posted December 22, 2014 I just checked a '79 catalog I have and the Iceman (IC-400) came in Midnight Olive (MO) and Antique Violin (AV) finishes. That Midnight Olive always seemed like an odd color choice, even back then! The pic below of a "MO" Iceman has darkened with age a bit:
it's me HHB Posted December 22, 2014 Posted December 22, 2014 It was so dark that it was hard to tell if the clearcoat weird or what but friend insisted it was black lol
Rockola Posted December 29, 2014 Posted December 29, 2014 I'll say it again, it the land of the free, use your Freedom Of Choice F*8k yeah, I swear he's playing into a Magnatone
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