RRHOF outrage post

[bry4321]

2026 nominees include Mariah Carey. New Edition. Luther Vandross. And of course, the first name everyone thinks of with respect to rock & roll, Sade. 

https://rockhall.com/2026-nominees/

No BOC, Devo, REO, Kansas, J Geils, BTO, Thin Lizzy, Styx, Scorps, Nugent (none of which are already in unless I am mistaken). 

 

[Willie G. Moseley]

^^^...and none of the 2026 nominees you listed play/played rock and roll. Add Grand Funk Railroad to the list of non-enshrinees. I've never visited the museum but the way things evolved, I'd prolly have a curmudgeonly attitude. Not on my bucket list, and never will be.

[Jim85IROC]

I'm not even upset with this year's nominees, except maybe for Sade.  I really like Sade, but other than 1 or 2 radio hits, her success has been on the smooth jazz channels, not the pop channels.

 

But that brings me to the rest of them.  While we all may have a different opinion of what "rock & roll" is, R&B and pop music are absolutely part of rock & roll.  I think Mariah Carey, Luther Vandross and New Edition all fit. 

 

But let's be honest, the RRHOF has been a biased joke for decades at this point.

[Dave Scepter]

The sooner everyone realizes that the RRHOF was massively misnamed, the easier life will be for all

[Jim85IROC]

13 minutes ago, Dave Scepter said:

The sooner everyone realizes that the RRHOF was massively misnamed, the easier life will be for all

I tried to get them to name it the "Rock & Roll That 3 Dudes on HFC Approve of Hall of Fame" and was denied.  

[Spinaltap]

it's become a bad joke, and I don't like the punch line

[hamerhead]

That's it! We can start our own! Call it 'F*** That Other Shit Hall of Fame'. And only put real musicians in there.

[alantig]

6 minutes ago, hamerhead said:

That's it! We can start our own! Call it 'F*** That Other Shit Hall of Fame'. And only put real musicians in there.

I'll donate $20, but the selection process can't be as vague as the RRHOF.

One person nominates an artist.  One person takes the devil's advocate position for the debate.  Then the final decision is best two out of three falls, no holds barred.

 

Edited February 27 by alantig

[Steve Haynie]

If it were a Hall of Records, as in sales records and ratings, the pecking order would be quite different.  If one could quantify influence, the importance of artists would change greatly.  

[crunchee]

Are The Cramps in there yet?

 

 

[LucSulla]

The actual museum is great. I went there in 2018 because I ended up in Cleveland on an afternoon with nothing to do. I'd always swore I wouldn't bother going, but someone told me to not let the induction ceremonies turn me off to giving the museum a shot. One is really just a group jerk off session for a bunch of self-nominated cool kids. The other is well curated and quite good. 

That person was right. 

For what it's worth, David Bowie's Young Americans probably doesn't come out nearly as legit had Luther Vandross not been there to handle the backing vocal arrangements and even contributing a song to the album. 

[Jakeboy]

I’d like to see the Museum but the Hall itself is a joke… a bad joke at that. I’ll restrain myself and STFU before I say something that gets me banned or just pisses someone off. No need for that 😎🎸🎶

[BruceM]

1 hour ago, LucSulla said:

For what it's worth, David Bowie's Young Americans probably doesn't come out nearly as legit had Luther Vandross not been there to handle the backing vocal arrangements and even contributing a song to the album. 

Hijack:  Yesterday, and I don't even remember why, I was reading up on Carlos Alomar.  According to his Wikipedia page, he was responsible for bringing Luther and the other backup singers into the recording session for Bowie's Young Americans album.  I would really like to read Alomar's memoirs.  I hope he publishes something.

Also, I saw a documentary on Luther Vandross last year, on HBO, I think?  And yes, he was phenomenal in his own right.

And as long as we're discussing Bowie, I highly recommend Woody Woodmansy's book, Spider From Mars:  My Life With Bowie.  He was the drummer during that time period in Bowie's career.  It's a highly entertaining book.

[LucSulla]

45 minutes ago, BruceM said:

Hijack:  Yesterday, and I don't even remember why, I was reading up on Carlos Alomar.  According to his Wikipedia page, he was responsible for bringing Luther and the other backup singers into the recording session for Bowie's Young Americans album.  I would really like to read Alomar's memoirs.  I hope he publishes something.

Also, I saw a documentary on Luther Vandross last year, on HBO, I think?  And yes, he was phenomenal in his own right.

And as long as we're discussing Bowie, I highly recommend Woody Woodmansy's book, Spider From Mars:  My Life With Bowie.  He was the drummer during that time period in Bowie's career.  It's a highly entertaining book.

I'm reading David Bowie: An Oral History right now. Literally, haha. 

[cmatthes]

9 hours ago, Jim85IROC said:

I tried to get them to name it the "Rock & Roll That 3 Dudes on HFC Approve of Hall of Fame" and was denied.  

That's because there aren't even 3 dudes here who would approve.

[cmatthes]

1 hour ago, BruceM said:

Hijack:  Yesterday, and I don't even remember why, I was reading up on Carlos Alomar.  According to his Wikipedia page, he was responsible for bringing Luther and the other backup singers into the recording session for Bowie's Young Americans album.  I would really like to read Alomar's memoirs.  I hope he publishes something.
 

Hijack and hijack for Hamer content:

 

[Jakeboy]

I mean, call it the MUSIC Hall of Fame, and I’m cool. But it is the RNR HOF. And no matter how cool and helpful he may have been to Bowie (and others) Vandross (to quote Mississippi Fred McDowell) does “not play no rock and roll”. Not when GFR, Nugent, Styx, and Kansas (among others) are excluded.  It’s bullshit. 
 

I should say, I love  Ronno’s playing on Spiders.

[Disturber]

10 hours ago, BruceM said:

Hijack:  Yesterday, and I don't even remember why, I was reading up on Carlos Alomar.  

Carlos gets a lot of talking time in the documentary movie We Want the Funk. It's funny when he explains how he got fired from James Browns band because he missed a chord. Then he found Bowie.

 

[ARM OF HAMER]

23 hours ago, bry4321 said:

2026 nominees include Mariah Carey. New Edition. Luther Vandross. And of course, the first name everyone thinks of with respect to rock & roll, Sade. 

https://rockhall.com/2026-nominees/

No BOC, Devo, REO, Kansas, J Geils, BTO, Thin Lizzy, Styx, Scorps, Nugent (none of which are already in unless I am mistaken). 

                              Yeah it's pretty crazy who is in it and who isn't, some of these people that are in it couldn't even do a show without "PROTOOLS".

 

Edited February 28 by ARM OF HAMER

[Spinaltap]

5 hours ago, Disturber said:

Carlos gets a lot of talking time in the documentary movie We Want the Funk. It's funny when he explains how he got fired from James Browns band because he missed a chord. Then he found Bowie.

 

That's a great watch, short, right to the point..  TY

[ARM OF HAMER]

                                  Blue Oyster Cult should defiantly be in it......................... long ago. Great band! Poor quality video and sound here but...................... Buck Dharma!

 

Edited February 28 by ARM OF HAMER

[RobB]

On 2/27/2026 at 6:31 AM, bry4321 said:

2026 nominees include Mariah Carey. New Edition. Luther Vandross. And of course, the first name everyone thinks of with respect to rock & roll, Sade.

Outrageous. I am outraged. Look at me: This is my outraged face.

[BruceM]

1 hour ago, ARM OF HAMER said:

                                  Blue Oyster Cult should defiantly be in it......................... long ago. Great band! Poor quality video and sound here but...................... Buck Dharma!

 

My first concert experience was BOC in December 1973.  I approve of this video.  Their first 3 albums are among my all-time favorite albums.

[cmatthes]

55 minutes ago, BruceM said:

My first concert experience was BOC in December 1973.  I approve of this video.  Their first 3 albums are among my all-time favorite albums.

I think my first "Big" concert was BOC with Foghat.  I had seen The Ventures in a small club with my Dad and brother as a kid (they parked us up front and onstage because we were underaged).  They were touring machines back then!

[ZR]

My first rock show was BOC as well.

My first concert was when I went with my parents to see Lawrence Welk. Hey Cissy was there and the elementary school boy I was at the time had it bad for her! Haha!  Plus, it was at the Monterey Fairgrounds on the same stage Jimi set things on fire, but I don't think that was the same night. I mean, who would want to play after the Welkster? He had dancing girls on stage before Motley Crue ever thought about it!