LucSulla Posted February 26, 2021 Posted February 26, 2021 And generally, I'm not into them. But the one he is holding in the main picture is pretty damn sick, IMO. However, I'm not sure that they are actually making that one... ...which would be very Gibson. https://www.premierguitar.com/articles/31423-gibson-announces-dave-mustaine-as-brand-ambassadorunveils-four-new-models
Travis Posted February 26, 2021 Posted February 26, 2021 Yeah, I’m interested in seeing how exactly they’re rolling out the series. The Gibson round horn V with an explorer headstock surprised me by having a TOM/stop bar setup. I was also a little surprised the Kramer pointy V being more reminiscent of his Jackson King V’s is going to be USA made. The 24 fret acoustic looks interesting. Nothing about the Epiphone budget version yet, tho. Doubt I’d ever get one. But I’m watching the development.
Drew816 Posted February 26, 2021 Posted February 26, 2021 Is Dave going to use the royalties to fix up his basement? Looks a little shabby. He'll probably be able to hire a dumpster and buy a can of paint or two... 😉 This I believe is the final production version of the guitar. I don't see these flying off the shelves as the prices will likely be insane and the overall "look" is different.
Jeff R Posted February 26, 2021 Posted February 26, 2021 Collectors will buy them because it will surely be short lived. Dave changes guitar endorsements as frequently as he changes Megadeth's second guitarist slot.
Steve Haynie Posted February 26, 2021 Posted February 26, 2021 Was Dean not making guitars for Dave with the right features? He could have asked for anything he wanted.
Travis Posted February 26, 2021 Posted February 26, 2021 1 minute ago, Steve Haynie said: Was Dean not making guitars for Dave with the right features? He could have asked for anything he wanted. My understanding is that Dave wanted a round horn V like his old Jackson Y2KV and either they wouldn’t or couldn’t build it for him. There have also been rumors of issues with the change in ownership/management with Dean. That’s why Michael Angelo left. Keep in mind, both of those things I got from the internet. And if it’s on the internet, you know it’s true...
diablo175 Posted February 26, 2021 Posted February 26, 2021 I'd hit this if... Fuggit. Y'all know the rest. Seriously though, I dig the color, though I'd want a solid rather than the burst shown. Maybe something in a black and green reversed polka dot motif? <ducks and run>
tbonesullivan Posted February 26, 2021 Posted February 26, 2021 15 minutes ago, Steve Haynie said: Was Dean not making guitars for Dave with the right features? He could have asked for anything he wanted. Who knows. He was with Dean for around 12 years, and is not known to be the most agreeable person. His time at Dean was certainly longer than the 2003-2006 ESP endorsement deal, and before that it was Jackson, which he tried to purchase. I am thinking very much that this was in the works for a while, and may have possibly been delayed by the Pandemic. He did sell off a LOT of his gear recently, including lots of Dean prototypes. This is most likely the reason why, as you've gotta move the old stuff before your new stuff comes out. A typical "business" decision, like his move from ESP. It's not like he's the only player who jumped around to different companies over their career. EVH certainly did, though he claims it was "never about the money".
LucSulla Posted February 26, 2021 Author Posted February 26, 2021 2 hours ago, diablo175 said: I'd hit this if... Fuggit. Y'all know the rest. Seriously though, I dig the color, though I'd want a solid rather than the burst shown. Maybe something in a black and green reversed polka dot motif? <ducks and run> I'm kind of wondering if they won't be 25.5. I can't imagine Dave would go to a Gibby scale unless he had to. I love the one he's holding. I think the old school V Custom with the hockey stick headstock and split inlays looks great. The rest look like any of a million other brands that do the metal V thing to me. However, if I shell out a ton of money for any V, y'all know the one it will be.
diablo175 Posted February 26, 2021 Posted February 26, 2021 16 minutes ago, LucSulla said: I'm kind of wondering if they won't be 25.5. I can't imagine Dave would go to a Gibby scale unless he had to. However, if I shell out a ton of money for any V, y'all know the one it will be. I wondered that, too. In an effort to gauge and/or justify a guitar's desirability, I find myself asking, via some odd inner monologue, "would I pay to have this custom made?" Meaning: do I love the shape enough and does it have sufficient features that I'd pony up the scratch to have Shane or another trusted luthier make me one. Lastly, is what (insert brand here) asking for more than what I'd pay someone to build me one custom? In the case of this V, I rather suspect the answer to the last item is: yes. This is Gibson after all and if it's a Mustaine sig, that all but guarantees it's gonna be prohibitively expensive. I don't love V's that much.
Drew816 Posted February 26, 2021 Posted February 26, 2021 I'm not a V person, but the one he's holding at the top does look pretty amazing. The Silver one, ahh. Compared to the Jacksons, nah. Rumor has it he approached FMIC but they wouldn't give him what he was looking for. They tried to push a lower line of guitars (not US Made) to make them more affordable and likely sell more and Dave didn't want that. Again, Internet news so true or not hard to say but considering what FMIC has done more recently with a few of their offerings this would make sense. The King V that Dave adopted used was Crosby's design originally (though he played a few styles, Firebirds, RRs, etc.).
tbonesullivan Posted February 26, 2021 Posted February 26, 2021 15 minutes ago, Drew816 said: Rumor has it he approached FMIC but they wouldn't give him what he was looking for. They tried to push a lower line of guitars (not US Made) to make them more affordable and likely sell more and Dave didn't want that. Again, Internet news so true or not hard to say but considering what FMIC has done more recently with a few of their offerings this would make sense. The King V that Dave adopted used was Crosby's design originally (though he played a few styles, Firebirds, RRs, etc.). If he did approach FMIC, that would definitely be interesting. If there is anything Mustaine can do besides play and write, it's holding a grudge. The story floating around for years was that he was in talks to purchase Jackson guitars before FMIC came in and it got sold out from under him.
scottcald Posted February 26, 2021 Posted February 26, 2021 4 hours ago, tbonesullivan said: EVH certainly did, though he claims it was "never about the money". It's never about the money (cue Indonesian made $600 models) 2 hours ago, cynic said: I thought the same thing when I saw this. 25 minutes ago, tbonesullivan said: The story floating around for years was that he was in talks to purchase Jackson guitars before FMIC came in and it got sold out from under him. I don't know. To me, it kind of rolls with the rumors that Slash was going to buy BC Rich or Bonamassa buying Gibson, etc. I think a lot of that starts when someone says a prominent user of the brand should buy the company.
Travis Posted February 26, 2021 Posted February 26, 2021 8 minutes ago, scottcald said: It's never about the money (cue Indonesian made $600 models) I thought the same thing when I saw this. I don't know. To me, it kind of rolls with the rumors that Slash was going to buy BC Rich or Bonamassa buying Gibson, etc. I think a lot of that starts when someone says a prominent user of the brand should buy the company. Dave himself said he was in negotiations to purchase Jackson right before he went to ESP. I saw the interview where he made that statement. But what is it they say...? Believe nothing you hear and only half of what you see...
scottcald Posted February 26, 2021 Posted February 26, 2021 35 minutes ago, Travis said: Dave himself said he was in negotiations to purchase Jackson right before he went to ESP. I saw the interview where he made that statement. But what is it they say...? Believe nothing you hear and only half of what you see... Oh, wow, I never saw that. Still, seems like he could have just had a couple guitars built for a lot less money and hassle. 😀
tbonesullivan Posted February 26, 2021 Posted February 26, 2021 1 hour ago, scottcald said: I don't know. To me, it kind of rolls with the rumors that Slash was going to buy BC Rich or Bonamassa buying Gibson, etc. I think a lot of that starts when someone says a prominent user of the brand should buy the company. Yeah, though Bonamassa, as well regarded as he is, most likely does not have anywhere near the financial means to buy Gibson. He's kinda on my shit list, as he's yet another artist who got EBMM To make him a bunch of awesome stuff, including a custom double neck, and then said "so long" when Gibson came knocking. Of course, they may have sensed that, which is why he never got his own signature model. All of the guitars he got were modified Steve Morse models like the "Dark Lord." EVH had been with EBMM as well, and the story and development of that guitar is legendary. Unfortunately so were the wait times, as EBMM could not keep up at all with EVH's market power. Even after he left, their slightly redesigned Axis is still one of their most well known and popular models, after the 50 different John Petrucci models they make.
black magic Posted March 1, 2021 Posted March 1, 2021 The natural mahogany Kramer USA made one is interesting. I will wait to see the specs on that one. I wish it was just a single humbucker, but Dave must use the neck pickup.
RobB Posted March 1, 2021 Posted March 1, 2021 On 2/26/2021 at 2:35 PM, tbonesullivan said: Yeah, though Bonamassa, as well regarded as he is, most likely does not have anywhere near the financial means to buy Gibson. He's kinda on my shit list, as he's yet another artist who got EBMM To make him a bunch of awesome stuff, including a custom double neck, and then said "so long" when Gibson came knocking.
Biz Prof Posted March 2, 2021 Posted March 2, 2021 Love the V with the split parallelogram inlays shown in the OP (an Explorer with those specs would be boss). All the others....hard pass.
Disturber Posted March 2, 2021 Posted March 2, 2021 A Vee with a TOM bridge is always wrong. The one Dave is holding, string through, is totally spot on. String through - original 58 style, Sustainblockbridge, Bigsby, Vibrola or a Floyd Rose are the only bridges that looks right on a Vee, (for me).
BTMN Posted March 2, 2021 Posted March 2, 2021 On 2/26/2021 at 11:53 AM, cynic said: There is talk about the resemblance of the logo and the inlays. I’m betting it was a Gibber idea more than Dave’s.
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