Ultimates: Going rate?

The Ultimate is the new 4 Digit, nobody ever knows what to ask for one when it was time to sell, and nobody has any idea what the market price is. Anybody that comes along that just starts throwing prices out is BS, unless they have cash in hand. 

 
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Considering that you cannot order an Ultimate anymore you should be able to get what you paid if the guitar is like new.  A little wear... knock a little off the price.  Nicks, dings, buckle rash...  you can figure it out. 

 
Steve Haynie said:
Considering that you cannot order an Ultimate anymore you should be able to get what you paid if the guitar is like new.  A little wear... knock a little off the price.  Nicks, dings, buckle rash...  you can figure it out. 
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Perhaps it's just me, but I certainly wouldn't sell mine for what I paid for it!

 
Many times I had wished I got in on that initial run of Ultimates. And I’ve lusted after every single one that’s been posted on this board. I’ve contemplated trying to snipe one when they go up for sale, as rare as that is. 

But then I’m reminded of why I got rid of my ‘97 hog Standard. That thing was a beast, sounded like my ex-girlfriend’s ass. THICC!!!  (In a good way). The mid-90’s medium neck carve was comfortable enough, very familiar. And while I would’ve preferred a thicker neck, in the end, it was the body shape that did me in. It’s just not for me. 

 
soli'd said:
Perhaps it's just me, but I certainly wouldn't sell mine for what I paid for it!
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Perhaps it's just me, but I certainly wouldn't sell mine for what I paid for it!

I sold an '06 Standard to cover 0016's cost. I lost two pounds in weight and got a killer guitar.  It's not right for every show, but it's perfect when I want it. The Ultimate is lightweight, the Shlabotnik pickups are perfect, and the top is AMAZING.

Going rate? Not for sale.

 
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bubs_42 said:
The Ultimate is the new 4 Digit, nobody ever knows what to ask for one when it was time to sell, and nobody has any idea what the market price is.
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Not really. I new exactly what to ask for when I sold mine. Hint: it was nowhere near what I paid for it new. 

 
RobB said:
Not really. I new exactly what to ask for when I sold mine. Hint: it was nowhere near what I paid for it new. 
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You forget that I sold mine my Ultimate, as well as a 4 digit.  I remember how many members reached out to purchase that 4 Digit and  scoffed at what I was asking for it. ten offering me half of my asking price. One member bought it, and he will make money off of it one day and I am satisfied with what I got at the time. 

My point to the original OP that I expressed in a PM was, don't let anyone tell you that its worth X amount of dollars unless they are willing to give you X amount of dollars. Those who are not in a position to buy, have only fantasies about what guitars are worth and no reality of what the market will support. 

 
I may have as much real info as anyone. I've bought 2 Ultimates used, both at a known premium to the original purchase price and both north of $3K. And I had zero problem paying what was asked, IMO fair prices given what they are, initial Shishkovs that are not likely to be repeated.

The first I purchased because it was available, I gave no consideration to any of the specs (beggars can't be choosers). I just jumped on it almost immediately after it showed up on the HFC. It had a MASSIVE neck, biggest I've ever played. I ended up selling that one (for exactly what I paid), when another Ultimate was offered to me that had specs more to my taste.

FWIW, only my initial purchase was listed publicly. Both the subsequent sale of that one and the purchase of the one I have now happened behind the scenes. I responded to a WTB for the sale and the 2nd purchase came from a friend here on the HFC.

 
bubs_42 said:
My point to the original OP that I expressed in a PM was, don't let anyone tell you that its worth X amount of dollars unless they are willing to give you X amount of dollars. Those who are not in a position to buy, have only fantasies about what guitars are worth and no reality of what the market will support. 
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I've heard this same sentiment expressed in a dozen or so different ways, but none as clearly as this. 

 
Ok I'll say it.  

0009 is not leaving my possession for less than $4000.   

Yeah, it's a LOT more than I paid for it, but I'm ok with that. 

 
Having given it more time rattling around in my brain, and considering what your c.2000s Hamer Standards are going for, $4000 isn't as crazy as it may sound.

Anyone disagree?  I'd like to hear the reasoning.

 
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