unfun75 Posted October 1, 2015 Share Posted October 1, 2015 But Knaggs guitars are even uglier than Heritages! - Austin Agree. I don't get his aesthetics. Hideous. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thundersteel Posted October 1, 2015 Share Posted October 1, 2015 I was a Heritage fan for several years. I was also a moderator over at the HOC before it temporarily disbanded (I hope this doesn't change your opinion of me)!Most of their guitars are really good. However, I got tired of their shoddy workmanship and numerous finish flaws. While the few semi-hollows I had were perfect, EVERY solid body I owned (roughly 6 of them) had some sort of glaring finish flaw.I've been to the factory a few times, and I was shocked at how dirty that place was. I think they still have sawdust piles from the '50s!I was there when they had just completed a guitar. They gave it to one of the owners for a "final inspection." The owner looked it over for roughly FIVE SECONDS and declared it good. I shook my head in disgust. After that, I discovered Hamer, and never looked back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tres Aardvarks Posted October 1, 2015 Share Posted October 1, 2015 Yeah, very insightful. My Ultimate has killed my jonz for simarily appointed Hamers. So much so that my last Standard is going on the block soon. There, I said it. It felt good to post this. Oddly enough, and as great as my Greenburst Standard is, I've had those same crazy thoughts. Glad I'm not alone... Sooooo after you get one of Mike's next models you'll be looking to move this one? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
serial Posted October 1, 2015 Share Posted October 1, 2015 Sooooo after you get one of Mike's next models you'll be looking to move this one? No, because he has never owned that one!But feel free to make ME an offer...;P Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LucSulla Posted October 1, 2015 Share Posted October 1, 2015 I was a Heritage fan for several years. I was also a moderator over at the HOC before it temporarily disbanded (I hope this doesn't change your opinion of me)!Most of their guitars are really good. However, I got tired of their shoddy workmanship and numerous finish flaws. While the few semi-hollows I had were perfect, EVERY solid body I owned (roughly 6 of them) has some sort of glaring finish flaw.I've been to the factory a few times, and I was shocked at how dirty that place was. I think they still have sawdust piles from the '50s!I was there when they had just completed a guitar. They gave it to one of the owners for a "final inspection." The owner looked it over for roughly FIVE SECONDS and declared it good. I shook my head in disgust. After that, I discovered Hamer, and never looked back.It kind of makes me think that the the 140 and 150 lines are just something they do to pick up what money they can from the LP market. They certainly all aren't bad, but the definitely don't seem to have the same level of consistency as the semi-hollows. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
velorush Posted October 1, 2015 Share Posted October 1, 2015 as the butterfly is to the caterpillar Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tres Aardvarks Posted October 1, 2015 Share Posted October 1, 2015 Sooooo after you get one of Mike's next models you'll be looking to move this one? No, because he has never owned that one!But feel free to make ME an offer...;P Dammit!!! figured I had a 50/50 shot at it! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cmatthes Posted October 1, 2015 Share Posted October 1, 2015 Me too! I've been trying to get that guitar or the other one, since 1985!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bennyboy-UK Posted October 1, 2015 Share Posted October 1, 2015 I ike the knaggs analogy.Trying to think of some others... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tbonesullivan Posted October 1, 2015 Share Posted October 1, 2015 I would say a better comparison for Gibson and Heritage would be Epiphone and Guild.There are however some great guitars coming out of Heritaqe guitars in Kalamazoo. I own 4 of them, and wouldn't call any of them bad. Three are GREAT. One is just good, but it's also had a rough life that has caused some instability in the setup. When I got it it smelled like moldy basement, and all the nickel hardware was completely oxidized. It's much better now.As for comparisons for Hamer and Shishkov, maybe Tom Anderson and Schecter? Schecter sold the company, and Tom Anderson left to start his own. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ptm1diver Posted October 1, 2015 Share Posted October 1, 2015 As Knaggs is to PRS. No no no,. I think its as knaggs are to husbands, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jakeboy Posted October 2, 2015 Share Posted October 2, 2015 Perfect analogy!As Mick Taylor was to Brian Jones......Shishkov has followed a legend that was AWESOME and yet has added something different, original, and IMO BETTER.Yeah, very insightful. My Ultimate has killed my jonz for simarily appointed Hamers. So much so that my last Standard is going on the block soon. There, I said it. It felt good to post this.Wow....just wow.....you and CMatthes both considering listing a Standard after experiencing Shishkovery......just wow.I so love my Hamers........but that Ultimate really is....after this run Mike needs to produce something with a non-locking vibrato bar..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bobby Marshall Posted October 2, 2015 Share Posted October 2, 2015 Based on replies from those with firsthand knowledge above, I think the answer is Ultimate and SLU. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack C Posted October 2, 2015 Share Posted October 2, 2015 as Hamer is to Gibson. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cynic Posted October 2, 2015 Share Posted October 2, 2015 ...as open is to closed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Haynie Posted October 2, 2015 Share Posted October 2, 2015 As baby blue unicorns with luminescent wings floating in ethereal winds are to lavender ponies with sparkly auras that ride on rainbows. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hbom Posted October 2, 2015 Share Posted October 2, 2015 I was a Heritage fan for several years.After that, I discovered Hamer, and never looked back.What he said. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
django49 Posted October 2, 2015 Share Posted October 2, 2015 After many Heritage guitars passed through, only two stuck......One (apparently hard to find) flattop acoustic and one archtop. The others,including all the semi-hollows (some of them quite nice) all have gone away. For me, too, Hamer was a factor. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hamerhead Posted October 2, 2015 Share Posted October 2, 2015 As baby blue unicorns with luminescent wings floating in ethereal winds are to lavender ponies with sparkly auras that ride on rainbows. Steve, I need some of what you're smokin'. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thundersteel Posted October 2, 2015 Share Posted October 2, 2015 ...as Brunettes are to Blondes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sixesandsevens Posted October 3, 2015 Share Posted October 3, 2015 Dangelico to D'Alqusto.Shouldn't that be the other way around? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ting Ho Dung Posted October 22, 2015 Share Posted October 22, 2015 Heritage kinda sucks - sorry all you Heritage fanbois, but they do. Gawdawfully hideous headstocks aside, they are sub-par to average guitars, with the possible exception of their upper range hollowbodies and semi-hollows. That KM shop looks like a scary episode of "Hoarders" too... (has it EVER been cleaned??!!?)Say all you like to the contrary, but I've seen far too much shoddy workmanship and played enough lifeless, toneless turds with that name on the headstock over the years to just have those be exceptions to the rule.Ding's two rule! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gino Posted November 1, 2015 Share Posted November 1, 2015 My take:As G&L is to Fender ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe G Posted November 6, 2015 Share Posted November 6, 2015 Dangelico to D'Alqusto.Shouldn't that be the other way around?As Jimmie D'Aquisto is to John D'Angelico. Fixed.As Steve Young is to Joe Montana Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaveL Posted November 10, 2015 Share Posted November 10, 2015 Hamer is to Shiskov as a "$400 ultimate grade upcharge" is to "Don't worry man, all the tops will be cool". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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